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Posted by Denisuk-9 pts Wednesday, December 26, 2018

Is 3rd generation over?

From what I see and think, you can tell what generation it is based on the groups, music sound or a big occurrence of events. Like, the 1st generation includes the very first K-Pop idols/groups, the beginning of K-Pop (i.e: S.E.S, Shinhwa, PSY, Fin.K.L, Seo Taiji & Boys, H.O.T, Baby V.O.X, Sechskies) and as far as I know the 1st generation goes from 1992 until 2002, which I suppose was the year where many of the 1st generation groups started being inactive, went on hiatus (probably due to the military), which lead to the 2nd generation (i.e: Super Junior, BigBang, Brown Eyed Girls, Epik High, Girls' Generation, SHINee, 2NE1, TVXQ, 4Minute, BoA, Wonder Girls, U-Kiss, T-ARA, miss A, SS501, After School, KARA, Coed School) taking over from 2003 until 2012.


The 2nd generation was the time where the Hallyu wave started, and in 2012 was when PSY helped the wave reach its peak. More international concerts started happening more often, debuts in China and Japan started to be a "thing" in the industry. The 3rd generation starts when, once again, a big part of the previous generations groups start disbanding or going on hiatus due to military enlisting.Leading to the 3rd generation (i.e: BTS, TWICE, WINNER, Red Velvet, Mamamoo, BLACKPINK, GFriend, GOT7, Monsta X, Seventeen, KARD, AKMU, CLC, iKON, Day6) from 2013 till now.


I believe the generations change when a "big" turn happens in K-Pop, for example, the music sound. And something funny I've noticed is that some groups are the "bridges" between generations. For example, TVXQ is the bridge between the 1st and the 2nd generation because at the beginning they were like a mix of both generations. EXO is the bridge between the 2nd and 3rd generation for the same reason, and also because most people never know where to place them,same for G(idle) i think their part of the3rd generation. also think that the generations are separated once something big happens in the industry.


When 1st gen started, it was something new. And when it ended the "big turn" was the sudden flooding of debuts. More companies started doing the whole training system and decided to debut their groups around this time. And when PSY got famous in America in 2012 was the big turn that was needed to make a shift & start a new generation. After PSY's success in America, a new generation starts. The one that gets to enjoy the attention PSY brought to the genre/industry and now the groups of this generation are starting to be more international, more western. Companies are starting to focus more on the Western market.

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    dancingbella23
    dancingbella234,192 pts Wednesday, December 26, 2018 0
    Wednesday, December 26, 2018

    not quite yet. I think 3rd will still enjoy some time until probably 2020. But there are always cross generation ones, like TVXQ that you mentioned, and SNSD. And I believe some of the 3rd ones will cross over to the 4th, like BTS, Mamamoo (praying for Blackpink but YG... ugh) ... not sure about some of them as I am not familiar enough with all of them so I will reserve my opinions.

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    Tirkam
    Tirkam295 pts Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1
    Wednesday, December 26, 2018

    In my opinion, there is a 4th generation (or at least a phenomenon) starting to rise up since 2015-2016 I guess, which is the entertainment centered/participation of the public groups.


    From the biggest (IOI, Wanna One, IZONE, etc.) to the underrated (Uni.T, Momoland, Fromis_9, MixNine group which will never debut, etc.), those groups were all created by and for the public, with success often coming fast (or not in a few cases, the market is still very competitive and tough with all the other groups).

    This situation actually affects classic & new 3rd generation groups which are now facing bands based/created around one or several previously famous members (WekiMeki, Gugudan, G-Idle, DIA, Pristin and more). Based solely on the success of the Produce franchise (W1 disbanding soon, P48 just finished and the next P101 is already announced), we will see new groups popping everywhere with that one hit-member factor.


    I'm not saying 3rd generation is over, it is still going pretty strong. I just say we are actually witnessing a change in the way groups are created and promoted. I don't know where the whole entertainment/TV centered programs will lead Kpop, but imo, it's pretty hit or miss. People will either continue to love it, and classic (as in no popular pre-debut members) groups will slowly decrease in number (leading to a slow transition from 3rd to 4th generation), or people will start to hate those TV shows groups and we'll need to wait another big event in the Kpop world to see the transition.


    Aside from TV shows, the general tendancy groups have to follow is the social media/visibility thing. Nearly every single 3rd generation popular groups have (or had) a TV show, YT/Vlive channel with vlogs and daily content.


    Either way, 2019 will be an interesting year :)

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